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Post by Stephenie Ward on Oct 6, 2006 10:24:33 GMT -5
This will be Rafe's own thread for questioning the Jurors. Only Rafe and the Final 2 are allowed to post here.
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Post by Rafe "Backstabbed" Judkins on Oct 7, 2006 18:51:20 GMT -5
Yay! I bet you all think I am going to be all bitter and difficult...well not entirely.  First off, congrats to you both for getting F2. That's what the game is about and you both found a way to do it. So for that I give you both a lot of credit. Only two people can do it and you're the ones. I would also like to say that this is by far the most fun and best organized ORG I have ever played in and both of you added to that experience...so for that I thank you. So I'll start with Jon... Jon I have absolutely no ill will towards you at all, you keep bringing up how you think everyone is mad at you and so far I have only read praise for you. In fact, its pretty obvious you are going to easily walk away with this thing. I think you were by far the best player in the game and that you played an awesome game. I just want to clarify a few things with you as well...you said that nobody on Menkaure would talk to you...that's kind of a lie. I have talked to you since day one. I have all the PMs to prove it. I even tried working deals out with you at certain points and you would have none of it...but suddenly Aras offers you a deal and you take it. I just wanted to point out that you can cut out that whole "Menkaure was mean to me" rap, because its BS. You played a good game don't hide behind that. Also I never told Lydia that you had the Wrath of Ra, and I don't know where that even came from. I was hypothesizing what happened with the Jenna vote, because at that time I still wanted to trust Aras, so I thought maybe you had it...that's all I ever said about that...if Lydia told you that, then that was Lydia's cover story. I never said anything about it. So that's it, I just wanted to clear the air about those two things and set things right. Again, bravo sir, you played a wonderful game and totally deserve to be where you are sitting...no anger, just awe, and I can't wait to talk to you more after the game...you were a class act and a great player. But I have to ask a question... So...If this game were really about the two most deserving people being in the final 2, who do you think the F2 should be...please don't base it on who you think you could beat in the finals, etc...just make it who you think the two most deserving players in this game were. And you may include yourself if you believe that. On to Aras... Aras, I know you think I am going to come after you and lambast you, and I am, but for very different reasons. Yes, you backstabbed your entire alliance, you lied to us all and you perpetuated lies well after you were caught. That's Survivor. And to that I say congrats...you figured out ways to stay alive and throw other people under the bus. Thats the name of the game. Sort of. I am going to clarify some things with you as well...I absolutely had every intention of taking you to the final 2 with me if it came down to that. I knew I couldn't beat Sally and Jenna was never part of our original 3 person team. I swore to you a million times that I was taking you and that you were it. And you kept telling me you knew and trusted me. The fact that you sold your entire tribe up the river just to get runner-up in a game, is completely ludicrous. Let's face it, you aren't going to win..even if I vote for you to win, you aren't winning this game. I honestly have no idea why I would vote for you though...and this will be your opportunity to get me to vote for you. Here's why I am mad...you made this game personal and you brought another game into it, and that's the bottom line. You were pissed at me from our Russia game and you took that opportunity to exact revenge on me in another game. You swore up and down that you wouldn't do this, you said it in Russia, you said it here, and then you left your final words in Russia saying that Karma was going to bite me and that I was going to get mine. Do you remember that? I can go get it if you'd like. You took this golden opportunity to be petty and force me out of the game and turn on everyone else because you were miffed I outsmarted you in Russia. AND, the best part is, you are mad because I figured you out, you were lying to me then too...I just wasn't as dumb and naive as I was in this game. So your question: Why did you bring another game into this one and punish me for it, and why because of that would I EVER give you my vote? Also please don't take this time to deny the fact that you did bring Russia into this game, because it will be wasted typing on your part. Good luck to you both. Jon you played a great game, Aras you played a game. Rafe |
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Post by Jonny "Fairplay" Dalton on Oct 7, 2006 19:16:32 GMT -5
First off, Rafe, I never once stated that everyone on Menkaure was "mean to me." The reason I decided to go to Aras was because of something you told me prior to Cirie being voted out. You said that I would be safe and you'd talk to me about what we could possibly do. I agreed to do that. Then suddenly at the TC where Jenna went, I found out that I was suddenly pegged to go again. This baffled me and led me to believe you were trying to use me and I thought that you may have mistaken me for somebody that was going to be like some people in the game and do everything at your command, which just wasn't going to happen. I'm going to flat out straight up say it right now.. I don't think two players of our calibur can play in the same game. It just gets way too competitive and since we were both masters at the strategy part of the game, we were constantly trying to outdo each other. But that's the reason I asked Aras, because I feel you got me to believe you and then suddenly voted against me first chance you got and that Jenna honestly wouldn't talk to me. So, that left me with one final option. Aras, and I'm glad I did it because he told me he was unhappy with his spot in Menkaure and it wasn't going to be tough for me to convince him at all. So, I had other reason for doing what I did and not why you think I may have done it.
So...If this game were really about the two most deserving people being in the final 2, who do you think the F2 should be...please don't base it on who you think you could beat in the finals, etc...just make it who you think the two most deserving players in this game were. And you may include yourself if you believe that.
By who played the game the best, myself and you. If we both ended up in the same tribe at the beginning of the game, I honestly believe we would be unstoppable as allies. The way we both convinced people to side with us was unbelivable and we were both great challenge performers who wouldn't give up, which would give us even more of an edge. But, with two players like us, there's only two possible scenarios. One is the one I just mentioned, the other is the one that happened in this game where you and I just could not team up because we were both fighting for power. So, that's what I think the ideal F2 for me would be.
By the way, in case you're wondering.. the "Puppet Master" name was from me. It wasn't anything cruel, it was just the fact how everyone seemed to follow your every command and how I thought you were pulling the strings. Not a bad thing, in fact, quite clever.
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Post by Aras Baskauskas on Oct 7, 2006 20:01:31 GMT -5
Hey Rafe. I will be honest. i brought Russia into this, but only for a little part. I did not vote you off because of what happened in Russia. I just came into this game witha grudge. I am one of those people that hates when past games are brought into current ones. Ask Jon, we had a conversation about that. I did not vote you off because of what happened in Russia. I swear to you. I voted you off in this game because you are so good. You were great in Russia and you were great here. Don't be pissed off you were voted off. You know you were voted off because we all feared you. I really hope you don't think I tried to vote you off because of Russia. My comment there about karma had nothing to do with this game, I swear to you. Like you said before, lying and back-stabbing are necessary to win. I feel I did that and that's why I should receive your vote.
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